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<description>Hi there. I&#039;m thinking of doing a couple of customizations to my Wii, but I want to check they&#039;re legal first. I want to have custom channels for certain apps, using WADder and a legal benzin base WAD. Is that legal, and how do I install the created WAD? Will WADImport do the job? Also, can I legally create a &quot;forwarder channel&quot;?
The other thing is themes. Using MyMenuify, is it legal to install themes?

BTW, my Wii is on 3.3E v2 and has HBC and DVDx installed. Do I need to update to 4.0 for these things or anything?

Thanks for your help.</description><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,19514#msg-19514</link><lastBuildDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 23:29:29 +0200</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,32288#msg-32288</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />So WADder 3 is released? Cool. Hope this time there arent any accidental illegal files included =P</div></blockquote>Well, there&#039;s only two binary files in it, and they are by comex and Wankynono (with permission for both), so yea.]]></description>
<dc:creator>icefire</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30419#msg-30419</link><description><![CDATA[ Yeah he is. I think. Hes part of twiizers, so he&#039;s sort of in control of WiiBrew.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30405#msg-30405</link><description><![CDATA[ Is marcan a mod/admin here? If not I don&#039;t see why you would.]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:35:59 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30389#msg-30389</link><description><![CDATA[ Why wont marcan allow it? Does he give a reason?]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:59:42 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30388#msg-30388</link><description><![CDATA[ No illegal files unless nintendo copyrighted the TMD format.<br /><br />Also, I have permission from comex and waninkoko to include their NAND loaders in WADder, so those are legal as well.<br /><br />PS: marcan still won&#039;t let it on wiibrew (even though its legal) and I may be banned from this forum very soon ;).]]></description>
<dc:creator>icefire</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30133#msg-30133</link><description><![CDATA[ me too...]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:38:40 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30129#msg-30129</link><description><![CDATA[ yeah, I should upgrade too... but it involves money I don&#039;t have =p]]></description>
<dc:creator>cactusjack901</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30128#msg-30128</link><description><![CDATA[ sounds to me like upgrade time :)]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30126#msg-30126</link><description><![CDATA[ No, it&#039;s a .exe, or in our case .app, it just makes use of Python and Python Scripts, but it doesn&#039;t matter for me or you, because the OS X version is compiled for Intel Macs. for me to run WADder, I have to take out my beaten-to-shit Thinkpad T21, hook it up to my HDTV, which I rarely have access to, and boot up Windows (the keyboard comes off this thing, the ethernet port falls out from time to time, the power outlet has to be moved back into place and the ribbon cable connecting the mobo to the monitor snapped about 2/3 of the way)<br /><br /><br />EDIT: I guess in theory, I could recompile it for PPC, but the computer that I like using (my iMac G4) has a dead monitor, the backlight blew out. So right now I have to VNC into it from my Powermac G5, or rather, my family&#039;s Powermac G5, which has no developer tools whatsoever right now, so I&#039;m kinda screwed if I wanna do any developing.]]></description>
<dc:creator>cactusjack901</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30114#msg-30114</link><description><![CDATA[ Isnt wadder 3 released as a .py script? (python) I have never gotten these to work properly...]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30108#msg-30108</link><description><![CDATA[ So WADder 3 is released? Cool. Hope this time there arent any accidental illegal files included =P]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30100#msg-30100</link><description><![CDATA[ Great response icefire :-)<br /><br />I have no return comment other than to point out that (1) I&#039;m not attacking you and (2) I&#039;m glad you&#039;re still working on Wii stuff (despite what may be implied the content of my comment).]]></description>
<dc:creator>Arikado</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30082#msg-30082</link><description><![CDATA[ it says registered 12 months ago, so I&#039;m gonna guess yeah<br /><br /><br />EDIT: and he posted a news article about that post on the wadder website]]></description>
<dc:creator>cactusjack901</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:49:37 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30066#msg-30066</link><description><![CDATA[ ummmm... are you the actual ICEFIRE? You seem to be talking in 3rd person alot....]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:21:13 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,30063#msg-30063</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Arikado</strong><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />And now the creator has been driven out of the scene by marcan.</div></blockquote>
Marcan can&#039;t be responsible for icefires personal actions. If icefire wants to continue, theres nothing marcan can do.</div></blockquote>
You are completely right -- however, marcan is a Wiibrew administrator, and him banning me (which he has done many times) does in fact make it difficult for me to continue, such as getting help in #wiidev and other channels.<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Arikado</strong><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />he says he didn&#039;t realise the copyrighted stuff, and was about to release a completely legal and useful app (which may have been WADder 3.0)</div></blockquote>
WADder has been illegal since the beginning for the same stuff its still illegal for now (the banner code) :P How could icefire not have realized?</div></blockquote>
Actually, WADder versions 2.0+ contain no banner code in them, they just edit existing banners (legal or not). There was one file, a .trailer file, that I did not know the use of -- that was becauseit has no use, and it was an accidental copy of a hacked nintendo banner that I did not know what it was. Marcan could have told me about it and it had nothing to do with WADder itself, it was not needed to run it and could be safely deleted with no side effects.<br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Arikado</strong><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />but marcan drove him out of the scene.</div></blockquote>
Again, thats not marcans fault (assuming icefire really left, and I&#039;m sure he didnt)</div></blockquote>
Yes, I did for a while, but I am sorta-back now (moving to iPhone though)<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Arikado</strong><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />he used to be part of team twiizers. but then he "left" the scene.</div></blockquote>
Not entirely sure what happened here. I think it was an attempt to turn n00bs against brakk3n (who after attacking marcan publicly would swallow 100+ Xanax a few days later :P). FYI, marcan never left all the Wii related IRC channels. Thus, he never left the wii scene at all. I&#039;m calling ios catz on this one. (There are still people out there who truly believe marcan is not still part of the wii scene btw - rofl)</div></blockquote>
You can&#039;t attack me for saying I&#039;m leaving and coming back since marcan did exactly the same thing. (I actually kinda got the idea from him, to tell the truth).<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Arikado</strong><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />So why is he now driving others who are trying to make useful apps out of the scene, which he is supposedly no longer part of?</div></blockquote>
Rephrasing: Hes not driving people out of the "scene" He never left the "scene" While WADder is certainly useful, its going to have to be legal before WiiBrew accepts it. If you read the WADder wiki page, we&#039;re more than willing to do that. It just better be legal (for real) next time. (Another way of saying this: Get marcans approval before the next release ;) )</div></blockquote>
a) Marcan did leave the scene<br />b) WADder has been legal since march, except for one pointless file that if marcan had pointed out in a nicer fashion I could easily have removed.<br />c) WADder 3.0, which is now released, is completely legal.<br />d) Marcan will never approve an app on Wiibrew that is related to me, as far as I can tell]]></description>
<dc:creator>icefire</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21794#msg-21794</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>z400100500</strong><br />Hmmmm....I&#039;m surprised nobody mourned my x amount of days abscence.</div></blockquote><br />You left?<br /><br />Reading your newest (er)rants makes me feel like you are always here :D]]></description>
<dc:creator>daniel_c_w</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21786#msg-21786</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Arikado</strong><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>DanielHueho</strong><br />When "temp" becomes "fail"...</div></blockquote>
[<a href="http://www.wadder.net/gbafail" rel="nofollow">www.wadder.net</a>]</div></blockquote><br />I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve commited #8 numerous times, eh Arikado? Like the irrevelant advertising topic?<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>daniel_c_w</strong><br />That also means, that nobody should make a joke, when they mention GBAtemp to noobs.<br /><br />:D</div></blockquote><br />Awwwww! Way to take the fun out of it!<br /><br />Hmmmm....I&#039;m surprised nobody mourned my x amount of days abscence.]]></description>
<dc:creator>z400100500</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:22:32 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21386#msg-21386</link><description><![CDATA[ That also means, that nobody should make a joke, when they mention GBAtemp to noobs.<br /><br />:D]]></description>
<dc:creator>daniel_c_w</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21382#msg-21382</link><description><![CDATA[ Oh wow.<br />Website of the day: GBAFail.net]]></description>
<dc:creator>wiiguy</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:40:12 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21330#msg-21330</link><description><![CDATA[ Some people have too much money :P]]></description>
<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21314#msg-21314</link><description><![CDATA[ To my surpirse GBAfail.net is already taken.<br />Look where it links.]]></description>
<dc:creator>daniel_c_w</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21310#msg-21310</link><description><![CDATA[ I thought Wadder was affiliated with GBAtemp :D]]></description>
<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:14:39 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21306#msg-21306</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>DanielHueho</strong><br />When "temp" becomes "fail"...</div></blockquote>
[<a href="http://www.wadder.net/gbafail" rel="nofollow">www.wadder.net</a>]]]></description>
<dc:creator>Arikado</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21299#msg-21299</link><description><![CDATA[ When "temp" becomes "fail"...]]></description>
<dc:creator>DanielHueho</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:08:48 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21267#msg-21267</link><description><![CDATA[ That sounds like the best prank ever. Silly GBAtemp.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21251#msg-21251</link><description><![CDATA[ plus theres cieling cat, which AFAIK is the name for the GUI.]]></description>
<dc:creator>ChuckBartowski</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21245#msg-21245</link><description><![CDATA[ On the term "IOS cats": I assumed it was just a joke you came up with: LOL cats = WiiBrew = IOS cats :D<br /><br />On the GBAtemp story: Seriously?]]></description>
<dc:creator>daniel_c_w</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21242#msg-21242</link><description><![CDATA[ Ios catz is a joke. Somehow gbatemp became consumed by the idea that Twiizers software implanted a secret ios that records what your wii does and reports to nintendo if youre seen pirating. Someone then said (bushing?) &#039;yes its true. We call it an ios cat.&#039; Suffice to say, gbatemp was in terror for weeks over this joke. There were tons of new topics like, "How do I get rid of the ios catz?" posted. And then (best part) "developers" started to work on apps to get rid of the ios catz.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Arikado</dc:creator>
<category>Offtopic</category><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:57:20 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21238#msg-21238</link><description><![CDATA[ Arikado, I&#039;m going to have to swallow my pride and publicly admit ignorance:<br /><br />What in effing crikey is ios catz [in ur wiiz checkin out ur isoz]?]]></description>
<dc:creator>alainvey</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Are these legal?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?14,19514,21203#msg-21203</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />And now the creator has been driven out of the scene by marcan.</div></blockquote>
Marcan can&#039;t be responsible for icefires personal actions. If icefire wants to continue, theres nothing marcan can do.<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />he says he didn&#039;t realise the copyrighted stuff, and was about to release a completely legal and useful app (which may have been WADder 3.0)</div></blockquote>
WADder has been illegal since the beginning for the same stuff its still illegal for now (the banner code) :P How could icefire not have realized?<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />but marcan drove him out of the scene.</div></blockquote>
Again, thats not marcans fault (assuming icefire really left, and I&#039;m sure he didnt)<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />I thought marcan was a nice guy.</div></blockquote>
He is. I&#039;ve had many pleasant private conversations with him. As long as you don&#039;t act like a moron, he won&#039;t "flame you" :P (although I really wouldn&#039;t call anything hes ever done flaming)<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />he used to be part of team twiizers. but then he "left" the scene.</div></blockquote>
Not entirely sure what happened here. I think it was an attempt to turn n00bs against brakk3n (who after attacking marcan publicly would swallow 100+ Xanax a few days later :P). FYI, marcan never left all the Wii related IRC channels. Thus, he never left the wii scene at all. I&#039;m calling ios catz on this one. (There are still people out there who truly believe marcan is not still part of the wii scene btw - rofl)<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />So why is he now driving others who are trying to make useful apps out of the scene, which he is supposedly no longer part of?</div></blockquote>
Rephrasing: Hes not driving people out of the "scene" He never left the "scene" While WADder is certainly useful, its going to have to be legal before WiiBrew accepts it. If you read the WADder wiki page, we&#039;re more than willing to do that. It just better be legal (for real) next time. (Another way of saying this: Get marcans approval before the next release ;) )]]></description>
<dc:creator>Arikado</dc:creator>
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