Xbox Emulator?

Xbox Emulator? Just wondering if its possible. I don't want to work on sumthing tht won't work what so eva lol.http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2736#msg-2736Mon, 11 May 2026 00:31:25 +0200 Phorum 5.2.23 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,55456#msg-55456 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,55456#msg-55456
Then again, the same could be said of this entire topic. Closed.]]> Arikado Homebrew ApplicationsMon, 28 Jun 2010 03:22:41 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,55434#msg-55434 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,55434#msg-55434 Aerinas Homebrew ApplicationsSat, 26 Jun 2010 19:23:02 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,55433#msg-55433 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,55433#msg-55433
take a look at www.chip8.com and search wikipedia a bit for chip8, superchip8 (schip8) and mega-chip8 if you really want to start working on an emulator.]]> Aerinas Homebrew ApplicationsSat, 26 Jun 2010 19:22:30 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2919#msg-2919 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2919#msg-2919

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DanielHueho
I know that the proper "emulation" is hard...
But let's pick a PS2 and a Wii, for example. Both of them uses PowerPC-based processors. And just for training the imagination, let's guess the video chips of both console use some common specification, a really small similarity, like some OpenGL-based architeture (I believe is cheaper to improve something than creating from zero...) . So you can almost consider they are really limited computers, with different operating systems.

With all of this said, is somekind of software solution, like a compatibility layer, at least close to possible? Like WINE at Linux? I mean, there is a lot of difference on hardware, of course, but maybe combining the two concepts...

Well, these are just some noobish thoughts.

If it were that easy than XBox emulation on PC would have been a piece of cake, since it's just a Celeron CPU with an nFore chipset and GeForce GPU. It's not that simple though, and PS2 doesn't use a PowerPC based processor anyway.]]> iofthestorm Homebrew ApplicationsSun, 26 Oct 2008 08:11:57 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2914#msg-2914 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2914#msg-2914

The PS2 uses a MIPS R5900 actually. However, there is some difference between code that directly accesses the hardware (like games on consoles) and those which rely on the OS to handle all the hardware communication for it (thus making it possible to rewrite libraries and catch system calls). The CPU part of an emulator is only a part of the emulator; handling memory and sound and video are significant parts of emulation. So to answer your question, the equivalent to WINE in the console emulation world would be HLE as you can't really do much better than that (of course you can do HLE better or worse, but I don't think its possible to really improve upon the core idea).]]> caddr Homebrew ApplicationsSun, 26 Oct 2008 02:12:27 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2913#msg-2913 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2913#msg-2913But let's pick a PS2 and a Wii, for example. Both of them uses PowerPC-based processors. And just for training the imagination, let's guess the video chips of both console use some common specification, a really small similarity, like some OpenGL-based architeture (I believe is cheaper to improve something than creating from zero...) . So you can almost consider they are really limited computers, with different operating systems.

With all of this said, is somekind of software solution, like a compatibility layer, at least close to possible? Like WINE at Linux? I mean, there is a lot of difference on hardware, of course, but maybe combining the two concepts...

Well, these are just some noobish thoughts.]]> DanielHueho Homebrew ApplicationsSun, 26 Oct 2008 02:57:43 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2890#msg-2890 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2890#msg-2890

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DrMario
the online was much better and the graphics still a little better and I cannot see the wii ever supporting the online experience xbox did.

Why? It's software based.]]> daniel_c_w Homebrew ApplicationsSat, 25 Oct 2008 11:24:12 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2855#msg-2855 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2855#msg-2855 Arikado Homebrew ApplicationsFri, 24 Oct 2008 23:34:03 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2853#msg-2853 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2853#msg-2853Also why would you even need an xbox emulator for the pc, most of the games are still available and have been ported to the PC for purchase (most are about $15-20 now)]]> DrMario Homebrew ApplicationsFri, 24 Oct 2008 23:08:04 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2843#msg-2843 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2843#msg-2843

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Arikado
Actually, Xbox games use DirectX code. I don't think an emulator is possible on Wii.

I fail to see how this affects XBOX emulation?

DirectX is jsut a software and hardware standard. A well documented one.
That actually makes it a lot easier.]]> daniel_c_w Homebrew ApplicationsFri, 24 Oct 2008 18:57:01 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2837#msg-2837 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2837#msg-2837 Arikado Homebrew ApplicationsFri, 24 Oct 2008 16:57:18 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2817#msg-2817 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2817#msg-2817 iofthestorm Homebrew ApplicationsFri, 24 Oct 2008 07:58:03 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2750#msg-2750 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2750#msg-2750 Arikado Homebrew ApplicationsWed, 22 Oct 2008 17:44:13 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2748#msg-2748 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2748#msg-2748 daniel_c_w Homebrew ApplicationsWed, 22 Oct 2008 14:34:35 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2747#msg-2747 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2747#msg-2747/\
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Yeah, a lot of tech specs explain it all :P

Xbox emulation is not possible mainly because Wii is just a bit more powerful than Xbox, and in emulation process a lot of performance is lost, specially when dealing about so different architetures (Intel x86 X PPC, just for start).
Anyway, Xbox emulation is still very imature even on PCs, so unless a revolution on the scene happens, you won't playing Halo outside the console. :)]]> DanielHueho Homebrew ApplicationsWed, 22 Oct 2008 10:44:15 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2739#msg-2739 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2739#msg-2739 surfing_at_12 Homebrew ApplicationsWed, 22 Oct 2008 01:25:52 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2737#msg-2737 Re: Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2737#msg-2737

* CPU: 32-bit 733 MHz Custom Intel Coppermine-based processor in a Micro-PGA2 package. 180 nm process.[13]
o SSE floating point SIMD. Four single-precision floating point numbers per clock cycle.
o MMX integer SIMD.
o 133 MHz 64-bit GTL+ front side bus to GPU.
o 32 KB L1 cache. 128 KB on-die L2 "Advanced Transfer Cache".
* Shared memory subsystem
o 64 MB DDR SDRAM at 200 MHz; 6.4 GB/s
o Supplied by Hynix or Samsung depending on manufacture date and location.
* GPU and system chipset: 233 MHz "NV2A" ASIC. Co-developed by Microsoft and NVIDIA.
o Geometry engine: 115 million vertices/second, 125 million particles/second (peak)
o 4 pixel pipelines with 2 texture units each
o 932 megapixels/second (233 MHz x 4 pipelines), 1,864 megatexels/second (932 MP x 2 texture units) (peak)
+ Peak triangle performance (32pixel divided from the hell filrate): 29,125,000 32-pixel triangles/sec raw or w. 2 textures and lit.
# 485,416 triangles per frame at 60fps
# 970,833 triangles per frame at 92fps
o 4 textures per pass, texture compression, full scene anti-aliasing (NV Quincunx, supersampling, multisampling)
o Bilinear, trilinear, and anisotropic texture filtering
o Similar to the GeForce 3 and GeForce 4 PC GPUs.

Wii Technical specifications

Processors:

* CPU: PowerPC-based "Broadway" processor, made with a 90 nm SOI CMOS process, reportedly† clocked at 729 MHz[78]
* GPU: ATI "Hollywood" GPU made with a 90 nm CMOS process,[79] reportedly† clocked at 243 MHz[78]

Memory:

* 88 MB main memory (24 MB "internal" 1T-SRAM integrated into graphics package, 64 MB "external" GDDR3 SDRAM)[80]
* 3 MB embedded GPU texture memory and framebuffer.

Storage:

* 512 MB built-in NAND flash memory
* Expanded storage via SD card memory (up to 2 GB)
* Nintendo GameCube Memory Card (required for GameCube game saves)

IBM's Wii "Broadway" CPU
IBM's Wii "Broadway" CPU
ATI's Wii "Hollywood" GPU
ATI's Wii "Hollywood" GPU

* Slot-loading disc drive compatible with 8 cm Nintendo GameCube Game Disc and 12 cm Wii Optical Disc
* Mask ROM by Macronix

wikipedia knows all]]> DrLucky Homebrew ApplicationsWed, 22 Oct 2008 01:20:38 +0200 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2736#msg-2736 Xbox Emulator?http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?17,2736,2736#msg-2736 surfing_at_12 Homebrew ApplicationsWed, 22 Oct 2008 00:40:08 +0200