WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmers I posted a note about a tool for making WiiBrew. I am not in any way affiliated with the tool except that I am a user. In my previosu post I even indicated that the tool comes in a free version and that the free version is quite capable of making fully functional Wiibrew. There is a Pro version for a cost but the free version is good enough for many projects. I will not discuss the Pro version so that this post is not mistaken for some advertisement for paid product. I repeat, the Standard Verison is free and is capable of making fully functional Wiibrew. My post was removed because some members assumed I was making a commertial for the product. This is not the case! I am only trying to make others aware of this software because in my opinion it is an excellent tool for beginner programmers who want to make Wiibrew. Other members questioned why not learn C/C++ for free. Well, the free version of this software (which can make fully working Wiibrew) is free but more importantly it is about a user's programming skills and a user's choice to use whatever tools they like. I, myself, have coded Wiibrew using direct C/C++ and I have coded using this software tools. In my opinion, both have advantages and disadvantages. With direct C/C++ coding you can do a lot more sophisticated stuff (like 3D, complex logic, etc) but generally you need some slightly advanced programming stills to do so (or borrow greatly from other sample programs). The software tool, on the other hand, has limits on what it can do but it makes many simple things really easy to do so that even very basic programmers can create graphical games with collision detection, movement, animations, etc. Please don't delete this post just because you prefer to use direct C/C++ or some other tools. Let the forum members know about this tool and let them make up their minds for themselves. I am sure this software is not right for many advanced users but it may be just the right thing for some beginner programmers. Just like the world of PCs...some programmers prefer the full control of Visual C/C++ while others prefer the ease of Visual Basic. If you are not interested then skip this post but please don't delete it (request to have it deleted) so that others, who might be interested, can read it. The software tool is Wii Game Studio ...The standard version is absolutely free and it can make fully functional Wiibrew...The software is out of the Beta stage. It does still have many bugs (as can be seen on the forum) which are being worked on but in most cases they are workarounds posted on the forum. I have used it myself and within hours was able to created a fully functional platform game.http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,44369#msg-44369Sun, 15 Mar 2026 18:54:43 +0100 Phorum 5.2.23 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,57146#msg-57146 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,57146#msg-57146
Edit: Also looks like FatQuack has become a ideal member here. It states that he was last online when he made his last post. The one on top of me ^
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Happy Coding - FatQuack]]> fatquack Feedback & SupportFri, 15 Jan 2010 17:17:37 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46879#msg-46879 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46879#msg-46879
When you first sent me that e-mail, I was very startled and then later very infuriated when I learned you had no basis of actual proof upon which you accused me of.

Now that I have had a couple of days to cool off and clearly think over what has happened, I want to publicly say one last thing to you:

I am going to completely let go of all that has happened between us.

I do not regret anything I said or that I did, but having said that I do not want you to live with the burden of your mistake or have your online identity plagued by it. There have been way too many times in the Wii homebrew "scene" when one person has attempted to ruin the reputation of another and I do not wish to play a role in another one of these battles. I have too little time and too much talent to spend bickering with you any longer and I believe you are in the same boat as I in these regards.

I truly hope that one day you legalize your product, make it free for all people, and release the source code to it so that we may one day have a true Wii gamemaker community. Until that day comes, it is not unlikely that you will continue to receive problems from many more obnoxious people. I hope this whole escapade between us has taught you to better deal with those unavoidable occurrences in the future and not end up creating more problems for yourself like you did by attacking me for almost no reason.

I pursued the removal of your product from paypal but it has been almost a week and I have not received a response from them. With that in mind, I will not personally pursue the removal of your product from paypal any longer. Should anyone else wish to carry on where I left off though, I will surely support them so long as your product remains illegal (seriously dude, it takes three minutes to fixed the legality issue -- do it already :p).

Well now it's time for me to close this message for you. I've made several very important points in this post that I hope you will take note of. You are certainly welcome to continue to post on this forum so long as you do not break any of the rules (this goes for all members though ;P).

--Arikado]]> Arikado Feedback & SupportFri, 15 Jan 2010 02:59:02 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46790#msg-46790 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46790#msg-46790 Arikado Feedback & SupportThu, 14 Jan 2010 01:20:53 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46787#msg-46787 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46787#msg-46787
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Just a question, why is this product any more morally wrong than Game Maker?

It's not wrong if it includes the correct licenses.]]> scanff Feedback & SupportThu, 14 Jan 2010 01:08:14 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46783#msg-46783 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46783#msg-46783 WikiFSX Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 23:56:22 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46769#msg-46769 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46769#msg-46769
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why the FUCK do you wanna try and earn money with something like that ?!
thats just saaaaaad

lol.

BTW. fatquack, you're also going to get in trouble for sending information to your server without informing the user. You need to inform the user that you're sending information to your server, even if it's to verify license information. What you're doing is wrong and probably illegal in some countries.]]> scanff Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 22:47:45 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46767#msg-46767 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46767#msg-46767arikadosblog.blogspot.com]]]> Arikado Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 22:42:40 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46765#msg-46765 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46765#msg-46765those are the laws the code laid down upon you and you ignored.


and now to loose my temper a bit:

why the FUCK do you wanna try and earn money with something like that ?!
thats just saaaaaad]]> dacotaco Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 22:35:46 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46762#msg-46762 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46762#msg-46762 SifJar Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 22:09:54 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46752#msg-46752 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46752#msg-46752 fatquack Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 20:07:41 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46735#msg-46735 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46735#msg-46735 SifJar Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 18:29:46 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46731#msg-46731 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46731#msg-46731 fatquack Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 16:32:51 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46721#msg-46721 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46721#msg-46721 WikiFSX Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 13:13:28 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46714#msg-46714 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46714#msg-46714
A lot of people hate my product, but I can't see why. It opens wii development to many people who would otherwise be unable to do it. You may suspect that the quality of this work may be substandard, but no one says you have to play it. And there may be some users eventually who push this software to its limits just as GameMaker is pushed to its limits.

I really hope you can see this software in a different way and if you do not like it, no body is making you use it. There is not need to 'hate' it.]]> fatquack Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 08:52:04 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46707#msg-46707 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46707#msg-46707 Arikado Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 05:33:22 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46705#msg-46705 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46705#msg-46705 WikiFSX Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 04:39:54 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46699#msg-46699 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46699#msg-46699 Crisco Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 04:09:18 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46692#msg-46692 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46692#msg-46692
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Will Thompson
(Arikado/Cornell)

I am FatQuack from Wii Game Studio and if you try any more funny business, I will press charges for fraud due to your fake email from paypal. After 01/02/2010 you may return to wii game studio (though I cannot see why you would want to) but further offence will cause a perminate ban a legal action against ths paypal fraud.

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Robert Dixon - FatQuack
I seriously had absolutely no idea what was going on and sent them a reply asking for more information on their accusations. I'd post the entire exchange of emails here but I'd like to throw some comments in between of what was going on inside my head and I'd really rather use my blog as dumping grounds as the entire communication between us was rather long. I also consulted a few people on IRC about it and will use my post tomorrow as an opportunity to thank them (too much homework and not enough time to get the post all neatly written and posted today).

Edit: And no, my name is not "Will Thomas". How they came to that conclusion though is rather amusing. fatquack would later explain to me that he put "Arikado" after [facebook.com] and assumed that the person who popped up was me. I would reply to that telling him that I believe he has the "sleuthing skills of a two year old".]]> Arikado Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 03:56:48 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46690#msg-46690 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46690#msg-46690
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Oh man I can't wait for tomorrow then.
Me too. :)]]> WaxyPumpkin72 Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 03:54:15 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46684#msg-46684 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46684#msg-46684 Crisco Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 03:16:49 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46680#msg-46680 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46680#msg-46680
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I've just had a less then pleasant exchange of emails between myself and fatquack (the developer of Wii Game Studio) in which I was accused of spamming their forum and threatened with a lawsuit over a fake paypal email they received. Neither of these accusations are true and it actually turned out that ... well ... you'll have to wait till tomorrow to read the whole story (and the entire exchange of emails between us) on my blog ;)

I will take a look. Do you need help with anything?]]> scanff Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 01:35:03 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46678#msg-46678 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46678#msg-46678 Arikado Feedback & SupportWed, 13 Jan 2010 00:53:06 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46563#msg-46563 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46563#msg-46563
scanff, thanks for posting the response from them. Unfortunately, they are wrong. The problem is that they need those two licenses in their product to legally sell it and they are failing to include them. Plain and simple. Since it only takes two seconds to add the licenses and update the product, it appears that they are doing everything they can to keep people who indirectly contributed to the project from getting credit they are legally entitled to. This is why I and others reported them to PayPal (hopefully by some time tomorrow someone will get a response and we'll know if it's going to be removed from paypal or not).]]> Arikado Feedback & SupportMon, 11 Jan 2010 04:34:14 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46562#msg-46562 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46562#msg-46562wiigamestudio.com]

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There was a topic which subsequentley was deleted as most of its replies were offensive. Basically, the two main complaints people have are:

1)It uses GRRLib for which it gives no credit

- It uses an early version of GRRLib the license for which permits my to do this. I am planning on crediting it in the future, although the reason I did not is because people would question why it is using GRRlib when its license doesn't allow it, although it does not use a version of grrlib that forbids this. it uses version 1.0.

2) It uses 7-Zip.

- I will definately Credit this in future releases, but 7-Zip is not u ised by the software as such, its included as an exe in its own right which is run in a hidden window by Wii game studio. Also, i made no modifications to the 7-zip file, it is just the same as asking users to install devkitPro, but for 7-Zip - only the wiigs installer installs it for you.
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WikiFSX (known as FSX on the forum) has been permanently banned.

Where did you hear that? I wasn't.

Cornell, who had a valid point at first but then resorted to flaming people, was. Granted, the relevant post was hard to decipher.]]> WikiFSX Feedback & SupportMon, 11 Jan 2010 03:56:47 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46539#msg-46539 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46539#msg-46539
Like you said, thank goodness for PayPal trying to keep their service as clean as possible unlike that certain other service :P]]> Arikado Feedback & SupportSun, 10 Jan 2010 20:56:09 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46538#msg-46538 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46538#msg-46538
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Arikado
It has just come to my attention that the topic WikiFSX posted in the Wii Game Studio forums about Wii Game Studio being illegally sold has been deleted and that WikiFSX (known as FSX on the forum) has been permanently banned. As far as I know, there was no reason for doing this besides that the author of Wii Game Studio does not want to fix his program (which is silly since it's just a matter of missing .txt files).

I strongly encourage all of you reading this to report to PayPal that is product is being illegally sold in response to their unjustifiable response. I have also notified the GRRLIB team of this.

I will keep you all updated in further developments of this.

Yes reporting a violation to paypal is very effective. Paypal has so many customers they don't want to take any chances, thus they will ban an account if there's any questions. I know this from experience :) However as you know Arikado dealing with some of the other merchant vendors is a pain :P]]> scanff Feedback & SupportSun, 10 Jan 2010 20:51:19 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46516#msg-46516 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46516#msg-46516
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Arikado
Yeah, in GMs defense, there are always a few rare creative users pushing the limits of it. These users usually do have programming experience to be able to do so though. The best example I can find on short notice is this: [www.yoyogames.com]

Edit: [www.yoyogames.com] - Another great one
YoYogames is the company of the son of the creator of gamemaker, which now manages the developement and exploitation of gamemaker. So no cloning in any way.]]> Dykam Feedback & SupportSun, 10 Jan 2010 15:38:53 +0100 http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46496#msg-46496 Re: WiiBrew Creation Tool for Beginner Programmershttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?20,44369,46496#msg-46496
I strongly encourage all of you reading this to report to PayPal that is product is being illegally sold in response to their unjustifiable response. I have also notified the GRRLIB team of this.

I will keep you all updated in further developments of this.]]> Arikado Feedback & SupportSun, 10 Jan 2010 06:45:52 +0100