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<description>First off, I heard 4.1 does not affect anything dealing with the HBC or any applications correct? And stuff like bootmii wont be affected as well? I&#039;m on 3.4 and figure mind as well update to 4.1 since im not on 3.2. 

Second I heard updating the WIi via game disc does ACTUALLY remove some stuff (I dont know what) So was wondering If I should update the Wii over WiFi?

Lastly is there a simple way to downgrade to 3.2? Im trying to decide if I should update or downgrade. Ive read some stuff how to downgrade the Wii but I&#039;m REALLY scared I&#039;ll mess up and brick my Wii. :(</description><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,30611#msg-30611</link><lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2026 10:50:58 +0200</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33211#msg-33211</link><description><![CDATA[ I&#039;d say IOS36 is most important, most apps that use trucha seem to use IOS36 I think.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:16:06 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33206#msg-33206</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>metroid_maniac</strong><br />I would say IOS 36 and 35 would need patching after.</div></blockquote><br />Definitely, a lot of homebrew that requires trucha uses IOS 36 (and a few use IOS 35)<br /><br />I am on 4.1 and have a bunch of Trucha IOSs (legally of course) you should update (with trucha)... the SD menu is nice]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:12:13 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33200#msg-33200</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>metroid_maniac</strong><br />I have a 3.2 and therefore all are Trucha.</div></blockquote>
Me too. I like it. :)<br />Keep your trucha.]]></description>
<dc:creator>WaxyPumpkin72</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:03:46 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33196#msg-33196</link><description><![CDATA[ I would say IOS 36 and 35 would need patching after.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:47:07 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33195#msg-33195</link><description><![CDATA[ You should update, but keep trucha. Its really easy, just update IOS61 with WiiSCU and select +trucha, then update through System Settings, then use dop-IOS MOD running on IOS61 to patch any other IOSes you want.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:44:14 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33191#msg-33191</link><description><![CDATA[ I have a 3.2 and therefore all are Trucha.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:29:32 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33190#msg-33190</link><description><![CDATA[ Yeah, its probably worth it. I personally have no trucha IOS in my wii, and I dont really have any need for them at the moment.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:28:45 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33189#msg-33189</link><description><![CDATA[ So, what do you think, SifJar? I think Trucha.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:25:05 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33188#msg-33188</link><description><![CDATA[ Yeah, probably a good idea. In a brick, its easier to fix with a trucha IOS present.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:23:53 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33184#msg-33184</link><description><![CDATA[ Ithink it&#039;s best to keep at least one Trucha IOS, incase something goes wrong.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:19:57 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33183#msg-33183</link><description><![CDATA[ For most people, no. The only thing I can think of that end-users may want (i.e. non-hackers) that is supported here is preloader, so if thats important to you, try to get/keep trucha bug. Otherwise, you&#039;ll be fine without it.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:18:52 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33165#msg-33165</link><description><![CDATA[ If you want to install preloader on anything like that after, go for it.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:07:15 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33153#msg-33153</link><description><![CDATA[ Oh I got it now. So should I really concern myself with the Trucha bug or not really?]]></description>
<dc:creator>ICEing</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:19:55 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33068#msg-33068</link><description><![CDATA[ more info about trucha bug <a href="http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Signing_bug" rel="nofollow">here</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:47:25 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33061#msg-33061</link><description><![CDATA[ No you dont understand. HBC itself, then channel IS fakesigned. Trucha is one method USED to install it. It is not required anymore (sort of) because Twiizers have found a way to install fakesigned content WITHOUT trucha. HBC is perfectly legal.<br /><br />EDIT: Cactus Jack is correct.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:15:37 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33014#msg-33014</link><description><![CDATA[ no, it <i>would</i> be illegal if they signed it rather than fakesigned it]]></description>
<dc:creator>cactusjack901</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:36:09 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33009#msg-33009</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />HBC itself. Its fakesigned. It has to be signed or the Wii wont allow it, and if it was actually signed, as opposed to fakesigned, it&#039;d be illegal.<br /><br />Gecko OS hooks are a feature of Gecko OS which lets you reboot your wii with certain things in place, like region free or usb gecko debugging. Kinda like preloader hacks, but temporary.</div></blockquote><br />I never installed any trucha when installing HBC...it&#039;s illegal?<br /><br />And oh ok about the Gecko OS hooks.]]></description>
<dc:creator>ICEing</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:29:31 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33008#msg-33008</link><description><![CDATA[ HBC itself. Its fakesigned. It has to be signed or the Wii wont allow it, and if it was actually signed, as opposed to fakesigned, it&#039;d be illegal.<br /><br />Gecko OS hooks are a feature of Gecko OS which lets you reboot your wii with certain things in place, like region free or usb gecko debugging. Kinda like preloader hacks, but temporary.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:13:44 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,33006#msg-33006</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>SifJar</strong><br />trucha bug is needed to install fakesigned content (e.g. <b>HBC,</b> custom channels, warez), and contrary to what maniac said, TT DO still use it, just in a different form, where it doesnt actually have to be present in any IOS. Its needed for stuff like StartPatch, preloader, <b>gecko os hooks</b>, and warez. Thats about it really.</div></blockquote><br />HBC itself or the apps?<br /><br />What are gecko OS hooks? Some codes I download say to use a certain hook when loading up the cheats.]]></description>
<dc:creator>ICEing</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:29:07 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32996#msg-32996</link><description><![CDATA[ trucha bug is needed to install fakesigned content (e.g. HBC, custom channels, warez), and contrary to what maniac said, TT DO still use it, just in a different form, where it doesnt actually have to be present in any IOS. Its needed for stuff like StartPatch, preloader, gecko os hooks, and warez. Thats about it really.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:45:27 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32991#msg-32991</link><description><![CDATA[ Trucha Bug is used by many system editing apps. Mainly, Installers. However because Team Twiizers are awesome they no longer need Trucha.<br />Trucha was killed by the 3.3v2 updae, but pirates always found a way around, through "downgrades" and IOS <b>NAME REMOVED AS I&#039;T&#039;S ILLEGAL</b>.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:11:29 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32987#msg-32987</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>metroid_maniac</strong><br />Nope. However there ARE apps that restore the trucha bug to some IOS. Unfortunatly these arn&#039;t supported by Wiibrew as they can be used by pirates. Sorry.</div></blockquote><br />What exactly does trucha bug do to IOS? Whats the benefit?]]></description>
<dc:creator>ICEing</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:31:32 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32858#msg-32858</link><description><![CDATA[ Nope. However there ARE apps that restore the trucha bug to some IOS. Unfortunatly these arn&#039;t supported by Wiibrew as they can be used by pirates. Sorry.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:10:22 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32834#msg-32834</link><description><![CDATA[ lets say i dont have any trucha bugged ios&#039;s<br />can i use dopiosmod to downgrade ios 16 using 36 then use 16 to trucha bug ios 36?]]></description>
<dc:creator>darklink</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:00:18 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32804#msg-32804</link><description><![CDATA[ You must tell Dop-IOS MOD to use an already trucha patched IOS... Therfore it won&#039;t be much help to use it unless there is already one patched IOS]]></description>
<dc:creator>TopGun96</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:11:33 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32803#msg-32803</link><description><![CDATA[ trucha bugged ios&#039;s (i think) from what ive seen on these forums use dop ios mod to trucha bug the ios&#039;s i dont know which ones though]]></description>
<dc:creator>darklink</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:55:01 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32763#msg-32763</link><description><![CDATA[ Unfortunatly I updated to 4.1 the "normal" way. What have I "lost" because of this?]]></description>
<dc:creator>ICEing</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:31:51 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32551#msg-32551</link><description><![CDATA[ Yeah, but my way&#039;s easier and I am not a pirate. :-)<br /><br />EDIT: before I update I could just dop IOS (insert number here) and take it with the update to 4.1.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:32:20 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32549#msg-32549</link><description><![CDATA[ Yes, but that isnt supported here (requires use of stuff unsupported here. My way uses only WiiBrew supported tools)]]></description>
<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:23:37 +0200</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Wii 4.1 Update via Internet or Disc?</title><link>http://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?21,30611,32547#msg-32547</link><description><![CDATA[ I&#039;d just update Normally, Trucha patch IOS 36, use it to install preloader then revert it to normal.]]></description>
<dc:creator>metroid_maniac</dc:creator>
<category>Homebrew General</category><pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:22:25 +0200</pubDate></item>
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