Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

SifJar — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:15:05 +0200

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yuki627
Guys is it possible to un-install the boot1 so that it cannot prevent the boot2 to install?

boot1 is a vital system component. Without it, the Wii would be 100% non-functional. So no, you cannot uninstall it. It's not there just to stop BootMii being installed to boot2 (or any other modification to boot2), it's there to load boot2 normally. [boot1 is on every Wii, in case you don't realise this, including the ones where BootMii can be installed to boot2].

You also cannot change boot1 in anyway on any Wii, because that would prevent the Wii from loading.

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

yuki627 — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:16:02 +0200

Guys is it possible to un-install the boot1 so that it cannot prevent the boot2 to install?

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

daniel_c_w — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:39:26 +0200

Isn't every title on the Wii RSA secured?

Re: Stupid Boot1 and Thanks

juggalo4894 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:03:34 +0200

Hope I'm not just being a pest but the way i have understood it, the reason that bootmii can't get past the new boot 2 is boot 1's new look. But i also understand that if the SHA-1 algorithm is broken then it might be possible to create a fake boot 2 that is signed like the actual one. well the SHA-1 algorithm has been broken and i thought you would like to know about it. I found this information on this site: [www.schneier.com]. Hope it helps and please keep up the good work guys.

Any hope in the future for boot2 install on newer wii?

reiserfs — Fri, 29 May 2009 04:44:18 +0200

I just want to know if there is any chance in future release of Bootmii i will be capable to install bootmii as boot2 on my Wii.

I have a Wii LU62 and bootmii as IOS, just wanna know if i can wait for a future solution or not.

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

uNdErLiNe — Sun, 17 May 2009 16:53:02 +0200

I believe my last post wasn´t accepted yet... but I know I can´t install in boot2 unless our good friends break boot2 hash...
my question was regarding another stuff, but i´ll put it in hold... thanks anyway

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

WikiFSX — Sun, 17 May 2009 11:17:53 +0200

I think he means to ask if he still can install BootMii to boot2.

He can't, as you know.

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

bushing — Sat, 16 May 2009 12:31:06 +0200

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uNdErLiNe
I believe that in my case there´s no other ""approved/safe"" way to install HBC and BootMii, right?

I'm afraid I don't understand. What's wrong with the current installer? (No, there are no approved alternate ways, not for anyone -- and there shouldn't need to be.)

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

uNdErLiNe — Sat, 16 May 2009 07:38:32 +0200

First of all, great job guys!

I´m a little sad because I just tried to install BootMii and I had the -2 error (Well, it´s more to a incompatible problem than a error :). I have a "virgin" Wii with 4.0u and new boot1. :(

I believe that in my case there´s no other ""approved/safe"" way to install HBC and BootMii, right? (I´m a system analyst and I must say that even after read a lot about HBC, IOS, NAND, etc there are some things that are just very complicated, sorry if I`m doing the wrong question in the wrong place)

Thanks in advance,

uNdErLiNe

Re: Stupid Boot1 and Thanks

magu — Fri, 15 May 2009 05:55:12 +0200

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diffikolt
As far as boot1, no, it will never be possible to work around. As quoted, "boot1, although stored on the NAND, is signed by a value in write-once memory and therefore cannot be changed."

It would be work around-able, only if the SHA1-algoritm used for signing were to be proven weak, so that we could create a fake boot2 with the exact same signature as the original boot2 (and now I don't talk about a trucha sig).

This is however extremely unlikely, since SHA1 is by the world, and it's cryptographic communities, concidered a safe and strong algoritm.

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juggalo4894
Hmmmm, bear in mind that I in no way know what I'm talking about but seeing as how it's all software, wouldn't it be possible to cause the wii to boot a file before boot1. just a shot in the dark but the question is bugging me.

boot1, while being in NAND is verified by a signature burnt into write-once-memory. The same as above apply ...

Re: Stupid Boot1 and Thanks

diffikolt — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:49:17 +0200

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juggalo4894
Hmmmm, bear in mind that I in no way know what I'm talking about but seeing as how it's all software, wouldn't it be possible to cause the wii to boot a file before boot1. just a shot in the dark but the question is bugging me.

Not at all. When you push the power button, the Wii takes these steps.

Loads boot0<-- Read only, cannot be changed.
Loads boot1<-- One time write, cannot be changed.
Loads boot2<-- Vulnerable, but newer boot1s block the vulnerability.

Re: Stupid Boot1 and Thanks

juggalo4894 — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:25:17 +0200

Hmmmm, bear in mind that I in no way know what I'm talking about but seeing as how it's all software, wouldn't it be possible to cause the wii to boot a file before boot1. just a shot in the dark but the question is bugging me.

Re: Stupid Boot1 and Thanks

diffikolt — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:37:40 +0200

As far as boot1, no, it will never be possible to work around. As quoted, "boot1, although stored on the NAND, is signed by a value in write-once memory and therefore cannot be changed."

As far as the IOS version, it in no way will hurt your Wii to leave the IOS installed. As time passes and updates come, it will still serve as somewhat of a brick protection, and will still allow different forms of homebrew ran through MINI. :)

Stupid Boot1 and Thanks

juggalo4894 — Thu, 14 May 2009 17:45:22 +0200

Considering When Attempting to install BootMii It shows a purple message that reads: "Can be installed in one variant" and a message beneath that says: "The installed boot1 version prevents a boot2 install (-2)" I'm gonna assume that there is no work around for this issue at this point. Also considering I'm a moron and went ahead and installed the IOS I have 2 questions... 1.Will it ever be possible to work around an invulnerable boot1? Wii hacking is an awesome concept and one i'm looking into getting into myself, but just from the way it sounds this might be an impassable barrier. 2. Will it hurt my Wii to just leave the IOS installed or do I need to get it out of there and if so, how? I really do wanna thank all of you guys for putting so much hard work into and sharing something that is taking time out of your lives to do. It really speaks a lot of people who use their time, energy, and resources to do what is generally a thankless job just because of the enjoyment of helping out others. I really hope that I can learn enough to gain the skill level needed to help you guys in these endeavors. Thanks and MCL!

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

Disguises — Thu, 14 May 2009 16:00:25 +0200

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niko86
You misunderstand. There is nothing wrong if you don't have upto 80. Nintendo quality standards obviously specify a nand can leave the factory with upto 80 bad blocks and be guaranteed to be working. Over 80 and in the factory they will replace it as it is below their quality standards.

Having 1 bad block is good. Nand blocks can degrade with use so don't worry if some time in the future you have 2 or more.

I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

niko86 — Thu, 14 May 2009 15:55:45 +0200

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Disguises
I also backed up my NAND and got 1 bad block, i read its normal to have around 70 or so? (correct me if i'm wrong). Any ideas?

You misunderstand. There is nothing wrong if you don't have upto 80. Nintendo quality standards obviously specify a nand can leave the factory with upto 80 bad blocks and be guaranteed to be working. Over 80 and in the factory they will replace it as it is below their quality standards.

Having 1 bad block is good. Nand blocks can degrade with use so don't worry if some time in the future you have 2 or more.

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

Disguises — Thu, 14 May 2009 15:41:39 +0200

I have my launch Wii and still get this error and can not install to boot2. I did send my Wii back to nintendo recently though. Is it possible for them to update it? I also backed up my NAND and got 1 bad block, i read its normal to have around 70 or so? (correct me if i'm wrong). Any ideas?

Re: Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

Hackrob — Thu, 14 May 2009 15:16:18 +0200

The best way to access BootMii at boot, is to install Preloader, that way you load Preloader at the start, access the HBC and then access BootMii.

Re: Chance of a new Boot1 hack?

alainvey — Thu, 14 May 2009 10:07:58 +0200

Write-once value - cannot be changed.

Chance of a new Boot1 hack?

Beegee7730 — Thu, 14 May 2009 08:12:14 +0200

I guess they are close to 0?

Re: Few questions about the new boot1 (f01e)

Helikelara — Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:51 +0200

Hi Nicc,
Allow me to try to anwser your question as best as possible.

As far as I can read from the information on HackMii, it does not look like it will ever be possible to install BootMii-boot2 on Wii's with an updated boot1, as yours is.

What I assume you have then done with the installer, is to install the IOS-version of BootMii, which works in a different way.
Try to read this link if you have not done that before: [hackmii.com]

It is a bit technical, but in essence it will be possible to have some degree of brick protection even without the boot2-version, although obviously not as much. It may also be possible to boot directly to the GUI even without the boot2-version, but I am not certain about that.

As for the GameCube controller - well, you probably won't have much use for it right now since BootMii isn't being used for much yet, especially not the IOS-version, but you'll probably want it later on since Wiimote support for BootMii appears to be a lot of work to create and will likely take a while. And of cours, there are many good GameCube games around you could play with it ;)

(Note: I'm not in any way related to the development of any of this, so if I have misunderstood anything please correct me.)

Few questions about the new boot1 (f01e)

nicc — Thu, 14 May 2009 08:42:47 +0200

Alright so I discovered both my Wii's are the new boot1 (f01e)

I know this is the beta versions and don't know much of what it is capable of with these Wii's so I am curious if there is going to be some what brick protection for these Wii's in the future releases, and going to load straight to the Bootmii homescreen?

I would also like to know if it is worth going out and buying a GC controller just to make the bootmii screen move side to side and load the options on the menu, since the power and reset botton don't do anything.

last question is:
is there any way to get the bootmii GUI to load right when i turn my wii on.

Thanks for everything. :)

Re: BootMii Error -2

John_K — Thu, 14 May 2009 09:10:30 +0200

When the Installer says "The installed boot1 version prevents a boot2 install" this means that you have a newer Wii that has a version of Boot1 that does not have the fakesigning bug.

This means that you can't install BootMii as Boot2 and must install as an IOS. While this doesn't offer the same level of brick protection as installing it as Boot2 it still allows you to backup your NAND and restore your NAND when something non-fatal has happened to your Wii (ie it's not bricked).

Merged: BootMii Error -2 / new f01e boot1 / future possibilities

giantpune — Thu, 14 May 2009 02:11:11 +0200

Ok, I searched with the search button and didn't find this posted yet. If it is, please delete it.
I tried to install BootMii beta1 and got error -2. The log says BootMii didn't like my Boot1. So I installed the IOS version. Then I tried again, just to be sure it wasn't user error. Here's the log. It is also sent to the email address from hackmii.com in its entirety .
#[33;1mThe test results are in:

#[37;1m Using IOS versions: Installer: 36, Channels: 37

The Homebrew Channel: #[32;1mCan be installed#[37;1m
DVDX: #[32;1mCan be installed#[37;1m
BootMii: #[35;1mCan be installed in one variant
#[37;1m The installed boot1 version prevents a boot2 install (-2)
A BootMii install #[33;1mrequires a SD card#[37;1m.