save from brick with bootmii ios

Hi Guys

Its my understanding that if bootmii is loaded as an ios, it cant restore a nand and so doesnt protect you in the event of a brick.

If you have a wii that can only install bootmii as an ios then what protection can you get that would be similar to bootmii in boot2 form?

I mean how can you recover from a brick that you could recover from if you had bootmii in boot2?

There is nothing that offers the same protection as a NAND dump, but preloader can help in many cases.

There really is no benefit as of now for the Bootmii IOS... yet

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TopGun96
There really is no benefit as of now for the Bootmii IOS... yet

As SIfJar said, I'm pretty sure preloader is the only thing that can help you right now...I think starfall has some brick protection functions, but I'm not sure.

As of now, bootmii IOS can't do anything. I'm pretty sure that eventually it will have the ability to run apps of of MINI.

The only brick protection starfall (or startpatch) has is the recovery menu with the GC controller...

can you have starfall and preloader on at the same time?

yes, but you must install starfall/startpatch first, then preloader.

ok.

for an older wii which can install bootmii as boot2 i assume you dont really need starfall for brick protection.

For the newer wiis (lu64 Le250 etc), how does starfall/preloader protect you against brick protection?

Starfall - Allows access to recovery menu with unmodded GC controller, and lets you boot games, such as Smash Bros, so you can use Smash Stack

Preloader - Places itself before System Menu, and lets you choose to load it instead of System Menu by holding reset while powering on. From preloader, you can launch HBC or launch homebrew directly. This may allow you to fix some bricks, by reinstalling IOS or System Menu for example, or by deleting dodgy custom channels (which can now be done legally, but can bannerbrick you).

Preloader gives better protection, but both can be handy.

whats the recovery menu for??

ahh so if you bricked you wii, in some cases you can use preloader to load system menu, from there you can use the wad manager to reinstall ios's such as system menu, what ios is the system menu?

grrrr... i was beat again



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2009 12:15AM by TopGun96.

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darklink
whats the recovery menu for??

Recovery. lol

Its a feature built into the system menu which usually requires either a SaveMii dongle or a modded GC controller to access it. It will install the update from any disc inserted, provided the version is higher than the one installed. Useful for fixing bricks caused by installing the wrong region system menu.

EDIT: The System Menu isnt an IOS.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2009 12:17AM by SifJar.

oh lol silly me, soooooooooooooooooooooo how do you reinstall the system menu?

with a wad that you get from NUS with NUS Downloader and then use wadimporter to reinstall it



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2009 12:23AM by TopGun96.

ok so how often is this likely to save you?

I mean are most bricks related to a dodgy ios/system menu?

hard to say. most are in some way related, but some arent. there are some which cant be fixed by preloader. for example, if you update and something goes wrong, it wont help, because updates wipe out preloader and starfall.

well if the update somehow screws up before the system menu is installed, preloader wouldnt be removed and then it could save you. However there is a very small chance of this happening.

so will there ever be a way to have the same protection that bootmii in boot2 has on an lu64 le250 model?

not the exact same as boot2... but if they put the bootmii in the same place as preloader (or before) it would help even more