I think it was me that may have, accidentally, misled you regarding airpong. The version I was working on was prior to the one that uses openGL. Anyone wanting to try that example should look on the author's site for that old version. I got somewhere very quickly with that, but I never finished it due to other commitments. As best I'm aware, "all" I had left to do was change it so thatby CookieNinja - Coding