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[20:02] _schism_> ouch. buy a new one and send the old one to marcan so he can make new brew............ [20:02] <@marcan> someone send me a PS3 instead [20:02] <@marcan> c1 shoved his PS3 under my face at 26c3 and invited me to poke it in rather unorthodox ways [20:02] <@marcan> even got me interested now [20:04] Storlek> oh hey, c3 -- how was that? [20:05] Storlek> any presentations worth a look? [20:05] <@marcan> it was fun 01[20:10]Anyways, marcan, please tell us the highlights of 26c3 [20:10] <@marcan> femtocells are awesome [20:11] <@marcan> I dunno, what are the hilights? [20:11] <@marcan> we go there to hack on stuff [20:11] <@marcan> obviously there's the gsm talk that made the headlines and such [20:11] <@marcan> then there are other talks worth looking at [20:12] Storlek> oh, did the ps3 guys manage to break the hypervisor? 01[20:12] Arikado> Any good ones of them publicly available already? [20:12] <@marcan> "the ps3 guys"? [20:12] I totally don't follow that scene at all [20:12] <@marcan> I'm not aware of any promising ps3 group :P 01[20:12] Arikado> Thats because there is no scene [20:12] <@marcan> anyway, tmbinc, c1, and I got together and looked at two or three plans of attack [20:12] Storlek> Oh, well maybe that's why I don't know about it! [20:12] <@marcan> if anyone bothers to ship me a free ps3 I might care [20:12] <@marcan> if no one does then I might still care, or not, depends [20:12] <@marcan> :P [20:12] <@marcan> I never planned on touching the ps3 but it was too tempting [20:13] Storlek> if I know you'll be able to crack it open I'd send you one [20:13] <@marcan> "here, have at it, you can even rip chunks of metal off" [20:13] <@marcan> we pwned that thing hard (and it still works!) [20:13] Storlek> well, I mean "crack it open" nonliterally 01[20:13] Arikado> I cant believe you can't run linux on the slims 01[20:13] Arikado> Thats just crying for hackers [20:13] Storlek> haha [20:13] Storlek> yea [20:13] <@marcan> what I mean is that hacking devices is a lot easier when you're not afraid of cosmetic issues and aren't scared of breaking it somewhat [20:14] Storlek> I never really gave a crap at all about the ps3 until I learned that [20:14] Storlek> because it was just like, "oh I guess it'd be fun but I already have a computer" [20:14] Storlek> and now it's more of, what, they told me I can't do something! 01[20:15] Arikado> Right, I still want to buy a second wii to just break it messing around with the hardware [20:15] <@marcan> buy a ps3 instead, then you can actually do new stuff [20:15] Storlek> marcan, I never cared about appearance, my last laptop was held together partly by duct tape and it had a small block of wood propping the screen up [20:15] <@marcan> the wii is thoroughly pwned already 01[20:15] Arikado> Good point [20:15] Storlek> but that didn't make programming easier for me :( [20:15] <@marcan> Storlek: I'm just not too fond of possibly breaking my relatively expensive <1 year old PS3 01[20:15] Arikado> Does the ps3 actually output on a non-hdtv though? [20:15] Storlek> why wouldn't it; and why would you care? [20:15] <@marcan> I guess that might chance if I get myself a decent job and just get some money to spare, heh [20:16] <@marcan> Arikado: yes [20:16] <@marcan> in fact it comes only with composite cables :P [20:16] <@marcan> you need to provide an HDMI cable yourself [20:16] Storlek> it's the 21st century, man! [20:16] Storlek> everyone uses hd now... .. . except nintendo 01[20:16] Arikado> Heh, then it looks like it's time for me to get one [20:16] <@marcan> wii2! 01[20:16] Even easier to hack then Wii1! [20:17] <@marcan> oh wait, the Wii can already output HDTV, it also has a GPGPU and 54MB of EDRAM RLY ITS TRUE (/tapionvslink> [20:17] Storlek> marcan: Looking forward to that one thoroughly. If nothing else it'd be interesting to see if they decided to keep the broken-crap IOS or break backward compatibility [20:17] <@marcan> I never get tired of that guy, he's just so hilarious [20:17] <@marcan> Storlek: broken crap IOS, guaranteed :P [20:17] Storlek> well, then it's already broken and our work here is done [20:17] <@marcan> from what I've looked it sounds like the PS3 isn't that secure [20:17] Storlek> if they broke compat, then did they learn or do they still fail. [20:18] <@marcan> sounds like it's less secure than the 360, it's just that it's also somewhat mysterious [20:18] <@marcan> but it looks like there ought to be one or two workable attacks [20:18] Storlek> PS3 didn't need to be secure, because no one would bother hacking it 01[20:18] Arikado> So the PS3 just lacks decent hackers then [20:18] <@marcan> something like that [20:18] it was too expensive for the omgwarez idiots, and allready accessible enough for the programmer sorts [20:18] <@marcan> anyway, someone get me a ps3 so I can try some RAM injection stuff :P [20:18] <@marcan> I hear it's not encrypted, that should lead to "easy" pwnage [20:18] <@marcan> (take easy with a grain of salt) [20:19] Storlek> marcan, can you do paypal 01[20:19] Arikado> Is there actually names for the attacks you had in mind? [20:19] DesktopMa> could still be signed :P [20:19] <@marcan> ... I wasn't actually serious :P 01[20:19] Shhh, don't tell Storlek that :p [20:19] Storlek> lol [20:19] Storlek> and the ps3 is still $600 right? [20:19] <@marcan> nah [20:19] <@marcan> $300 I think? [20:20] <@marcan> whoosh [20:20] <@marcan> I'm tired [20:21] Storlek> although I *have* been known to randomly paypal money and/or send packages containing random stuff to people [20:21] <@marcan> bushing does that [20:21] T00LM4N> btw quick thank you to anyone who had anything to do with anything for hacking the wii. PROPS! lol damn i used a lot of "any" [20:21] <@marcan> still makes me feel bad
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