So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 04:20AM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 69 |
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Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 03:12PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 384 |
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Arikado
Welcome to The Socialist United States of America.
All we can do is hope the next President repeals it.
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 03:49PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1,141 |
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 05:12PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 379 |
Won't solve a thing, guys get sick because they live unhealthy lives, no amount of health-care will solve that.Quote
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Arikado
Welcome to The Socialist United States of America.
All we can do is hope the next President repeals it.
Lol. Seriously, what is so wrong with trying to get as many people as possible to have a health insurence? The money it costs? Well, I'm sure you get much back as healthy people can work more and better than ill ones.
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 05:38PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 384 |
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DaidWon't solve a thing, guys get sick because they live unhealthy lives, no amount of health-care will solve that.Quote
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Arikado
Welcome to The Socialist United States of America.
All we can do is hope the next President repeals it.
Lol. Seriously, what is so wrong with trying to get as many people as possible to have a health insurence? The money it costs? Well, I'm sure you get much back as healthy people can work more and better than ill ones.
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Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 05:53PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 379 |
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The annual healthcare cost of obesity in the US has doubled in less than a decade and may be as high as 147 billion dollars a year says new government-sponsored research.
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 07:01PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 118 |
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 07:18PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 384 |
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Daid
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The annual healthcare cost of obesity in the US has doubled in less than a decade and may be as high as 147 billion dollars a year says new government-sponsored research.
Yes, breaking a leg sucks, and it is costly to fix. But mass living unhealthy is like everyone breaking legs all the time, every few years. The amount of health problems that you can get from being fat is insane (which might even include a higher risk to break bones, I'll get back to you on that)
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 07:57PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 746 |
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 07:57PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 703 |
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dancinninja
Interesting note, in Great Britain, they eat some horrible, horrible foods (and not just disgusting, but bad for you too), but they live healthier lives due to their health care system.
I do agree that people really should eat better and take better care of themselves; I personally think that a large portion of our problems could be literally solved if everyone would just wash their hands after going to the bathroom.
And no, "I didn't get anything on me" is not an excuse.
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 09:55PM | Admin Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 5,132 |
Obama's politics are based around "Spreading the wealth". Socialism.Quote
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Arikado
Welcome to The Socialist United States of America.
I'm just going to go ahead and take a wild guess that you've never read any socialist literature. Because if you have, you'd know that neither Obama, nor any of his policies, are based in Socialism
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 10:21PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 703 |
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 11:08PM | Admin Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 5,132 |
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 11:22PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 77 |
Mm, which tax? The one which only applies to people making over $200,000? Fair enough, but that sort of calls item 2 into question.Quote
Arikado
1)The people who already have private health insurance gain nothing but another forced tax on their hard earned money
No, really. WhatQuote
2)More people in America are put out of a job as people who can't afford government and private health insurance are forced to drop their private health insurance putting those private health insurance companies out of business. The 10% unemployment rate is bad enough already.
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3)The government health care plan is a lot worse than most private health care plans. Medical facilities are now going to be afraid to treat people for fear of pissing off the government. So if I have a heart attack, the hospital won't save my life until a government official tell them to go ahead. God help me if it happens on a Sunday and the government official is on his day off. "Treat First - Pay Later" is now no more ...
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Yes there are good elements to the health care system now and yes reform of the health care system was indeed needed. But it should have been done through new laws protecting people from being cheated, not by government takeover of the entire industry.
Re: So, uh, the health care bill passed. March 22, 2010 11:46PM | Admin Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 5,132 |
It's simple really. Many people can't afford government and private health insurance so they have to drop paying for the private one because they can't drop paying for the government one. This results in at best downsizing of insurance companies and thus cutting jobs. Also, only the people at the top of the insurance companies make 6 digit salaries.Quote
comexMm, which tax? The one which only applies to people making over $200,000? Fair enough, but that sort of calls item 2 into question.Quote
Arikado
1)The people who already have private health insurance gain nothing but another forced tax on their hard earned moneyNo, really. WhatQuote
2)More people in America are put out of a job as people who can't afford government and private health insurance are forced to drop their private health insurance putting those private health insurance companies out of business. The 10% unemployment rate is bad enough already.
I beg to differ on that. Only time will tell though ...QuoteQuote
Yes there are good elements to the health care system now and yes reform of the health care system was indeed needed. But it should have been done through new laws protecting people from being cheated, not by government takeover of the entire industry.
You know most of the industry will be unchanged (except that such laws will be added), right?
Yeah, I kinda feel strongly about it too. No hard feelings outside of the political realm, right?Quote
(Sorry, I don't like to flame but this topic makes me feel strongly. Can you point to a specific aspect of the bill [tax, whatever] that you disagree with so it can be debated intelligently?)
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