Re: Mega Merged Oct.23 Update Thread October 31, 2008 03:52AM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 4 |
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tona
Neither installer *relies* on it. Although if you tell my installer to patch IOS51, it will try to use it.
Hmm, I always thought that any kind of NAND modification involved the fakesigning bug... Bléh, I hate to do mistakes :P.Quote
superflysocal
it appears that i can still run the hack, so i just want to know what program installation will fail with the oct 23 update. I'm just also trying to figure out how one can tell if you have an oct updated wii unit (which be helpful for people buying a new unit from here on which may have the update installed at the factory).
It's pretty unlikely this update will came with newest Wiis like this fast, but anyway, I guess that the easiest way to know if the update is installed is running a installer that uses fakesigning bug and see what happens, like the DVDX installer.
Remember, installing apps on the SD card remains good as ever, because "installation", on this case, is pretty much "copy-and-paste" the files from your PC to the card (or even just downloading from Wii with Homebrew Browser)
Re: Mega Merged Oct.23 Update Thread October 31, 2008 05:20AM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 138 |
Should I update the homebrew channel or IOS first? October 30, 2008 11:17AM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1 |
Re: Should I update the homebrew channel or IOS first? October 30, 2008 11:28AM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 443 |
Re: Should I update the homebrew channel or IOS first? October 31, 2008 09:33AM | Admin Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 271 |
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whodares
If you are using Muzzer's or Tona's tools to install IOS51 and the new shop channel, then it doesn't matter. If you're thinking of using the Nintendo update, I'd suggest installing the HBC first, otherwise the update will kill fakesigning.
Re: Should I update the homebrew channel or IOS first? October 31, 2008 12:05PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 443 |
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whodares
If you are using Muzzer's or Tona's tools to install IOS51 and the new shop channel, then it doesn't matter. If you're thinking of using the Nintendo update, I'd suggest installing the HBC first, otherwise the update will kill fakesigning.
HBC b9 uses an unreleased exploit which works around the update.
Re: I just want to confirm a few things before updating my Wii... October 31, 2008 03:47PM | Admin Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 271 |
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Tanstaafl
And what happens if a disk comes along that has a system update on it, and we don't want to mess with GeckoOS to skip the update because we have no use for it otherwise? All this talk about discouraging the newest update seems a little shortsighted. True, I've had my share of bad updates for my pc OS (both windows and linux), and we've all heard the PS3 story I'm sure, but Nintendo does have an lot of control over our Wii's software, and to be honest, they almost certainly know more about it then anyone else as well. So, naturally, this bold "DO NOT UPDATE YOUR WII" disturbs me. It's my Wii. It's already been said multiple times that the homebrew channel is at the user's risk, and if you want to state your opinion that we don't need to update our Wiis, that's fine. But everyone has different preferences, and not everyone will want to use/trust every bit of homebrew out there, and that includes GeckoOS and Beta9.
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HyperHackerThe exploit HBC9 uses to install a channel under IOS51? Nobody else can make a channel without it now.Quote
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SpoomErm... only if they steal banner code, which they're forced to because the banner tools and exploit used by HBC haven't been released (for better or worse).Quote
tona
Installing channels (other than HBC) still uses copyrighted Nintendo code--also not supported. Kthx.
Nobody's forcing you to do anything. I think it would be nice to release the banner tools, but they're Marcan's hard work and it's therefore his decision. What does an exploit have to do with this?
Re: Mega Merged Oct.23 Update Thread October 31, 2008 07:53PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 920 |
Re: Mega Merged Oct.23 Update Thread October 31, 2008 09:19PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 499 |
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DrLucky
Wow... I just read all 8 pages of this! Crash course in Wii ios!
But I am confused about the banner code. The Homebrew Channel has banners in it, and a lot of the emu-channels have their own custom banners. I understand that the code used to change the banner might be Nintendo's, but how is Homebrew Channel the exception? If it is something completely original, why can't we use that to make our own custom channels out of homebrew apps? Also, if Nintendo's banner code is from a free channel, like the photo channel, wouldn't that be considered freeware?
Re: Mega Merged Oct.23 Update Thread October 31, 2008 10:15PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 920 |
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DrLucky
Wow... I just read all 8 pages of this! Crash course in Wii ios!
But I am confused about the banner code. The Homebrew Channel has banners in it, and a lot of the emu-channels have their own custom banners. I understand that the code used to change the banner might be Nintendo's, but how is Homebrew Channel the exception? If it is something completely original, why can't we use that to make our own custom channels out of homebrew apps? Also, if Nintendo's banner code is from a free channel, like the photo channel, wouldn't that be considered freeware?
Freeware is completely different from open-source. Freeware is free to use, and open-source is free to use the compiled program and to see and modify the original code.
Homebrew Channel is a exception because doesn't use leaked code from Nintendo. Simple like that, if I didn't said bullshit again :P
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Re: Should I update the homebrew channel or IOS first? November 02, 2008 07:54AM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 138 |
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Re: Mega Merged Oct.23 Update Thread November 03, 2008 06:53AM | Admin Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 271 |
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DanielHueho
EDIT: I just find out something curious... I was surfing on Orkut, and I saw a strange declaration of a guy who has a "defective" Wii. He said, beyond other stuff (like the games with all the colors messed up), that the system version in Wii settings was 3.4U before the console started to act weird, and "for some reason", now is 3.3U...
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DanielHueho
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Freeware: you can use it only for what is programmed. Using a hacked Nintendo WAD to load your own code is illegal, I guess.
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Other thing: most freeware apps for PC follow a similar method, that's means, some developers only allow non-commercial use of this apps, for giving an example, and the fact it's a free-of-charge program doesn't mean it's free to modify.
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DrLucky
But using your scenario, then wouldn't applications (USB Gecko) that "rip" Nintendo code from the Wii be illegal? And exploits too?
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HyperHacker
It's a copyright issue. Copying Nintendo's banner code to your own program violates their copyright on said code.
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NeoRez
Sigh, my cousin decided to "help" me while I was gone by updating my wii shop channel. I have the homebrew channel beta 9, but I can't use the wad manager. Before my Gecko OS wouldn't work, but I did something to the boot file and it now works. Can I do the same to the wad manager?
Help! Installed official update... November 02, 2008 03:05PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 13 |
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