Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 09:31AM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 41 |
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nintendude
1) What are Indiana Pwns and SmashStack?
2) What can I do (if anything) to keep my beloved HBC on my 4.1U Wii and then update to 4.2?
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 09:33AM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1 |
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 01:27PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 303 |
WiiSCU worked for me, and at least one other person on the 4.2 talk page. Apparently the Wii Shop & IOS61 installer is working for users that have had no luck with WiiSCU. Not a clue why, as from what I gathered, the applications are effectively two branches of the same tree.Quote
SpyroDragon
What is the best way to update only the shop channel, without installing 4.2 right now?
The Wiki says either WiiSCU [wiibrew.org] or the Wii Shop and IOS61 installer [wiibrew.org]
Has anyone tried yet?
That is fairly amusing :PQuote
poepoogJODI : Jodi Daugherty, Nintendo’s senior director for anti-piracy.Quote
WaxyPumpkin72
Lol, I don't really get it either. Probably some inside joke. :P
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 02:43PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 51 |
Someone should write him a letter and let him know he help homebrew survive :)Quote
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WaxyPumpkin72
Lol, I don't really get it either. Probably some inside joke. :P
JODI : Jodi Daugherty, Nintendo’s senior director for anti-piracy.
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 03:46PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 186 |
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 04:07PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 24 |
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 04:59PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 119 |
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TheManuel
Is there any indication yet of what is causing the bricked Wii's after updating to 4.2?
Somebody mentioned something about converted Korean region Wii's.
Has anyone here in the forum updated safely to 4.2 while having the homebrew channel and/or BootMii installed?
My guess is this is happening to Wii's that have been modified in some way or another despite what the posts are claiming. If this is the case, this will be the first time I feel a little nervous of having installed the HBC.
For now I'll wait for the next Nintendo update to see what develops.
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 06:52PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 186 |
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wolfennights
I was able to update safely to 4.2 after also updating Homebrew Channel, but upon learning about Wiis getting bricked even if they were not hacked, I became paranoid and deleted all my Homebrew. I had heard that if your Wii bricks and you don't have Homebrew, they repair it for free, so I just took that precaution in case it DID brick.
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Matoking
The doesn't-boot brick is caused by the buggy boot2 code. It affects ALL WIIS, even non-homebrew'd.The region-brick is purposeful and there doesn't seem to be a fix around it, just don't update if you are using an Korean Wii that has been updated to English.]
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 07:01PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 5,075 |
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 07:16PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 41 |
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swirleydude
Question about Wii System updates, are updates cumulative? In other words will every update in the future also include 4.2's anti-homebrew updates?
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TheManuel
Is there any indication yet of what is causing the bricked Wii's after updating to 4.2?
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HackMii
Their boot2-updating code (ES_ImportBoot) is not well-tested; they’ve never updated boot2 on retail consoles before, and in our testing we discovered that it often fails to write out ECC data for the new version of boot2 that it writes. We should expect to see some number of bricked Wiis from this; the code is so buggy that we decided to write our own for the HackMii installer.
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TheManuel
My guess is this is happening to Wii's that have been modified in some way or another despite what the posts are claiming.
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TheManuel
I feel a little nervous of having installed the HBC.
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 07:20PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 51 |
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TheManuel
I feel a little nervous of having installed the HBC.
Nintendo's incompetence is the problem, not the Homebrew Channel. You can safely have it installed.
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 07:25PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 41 |
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 07:30PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 51 |
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 07:47PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 5,075 |
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swirleydude
Someone needs to write a one-click homebrew purge app, well other then Ninty, so if we decide to risk the update Ninty will still fix our console for free.
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 07:56PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 24 |
Cus if it did brick, I didn't wanna hafta pay 80 bucks to fix it.Quote
TheManuel
But why bother deleting everything if you already updated?
Exactly my situation as well.Quote
Swirly
I don't he is afraid of HBC bricking his Wii. He, like I, is worried that if we update and HBC and everything else is still installed that we won't be able to get Ninty to repair our Wii's for free.
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 08:11PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 186 |
Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 08:28PM | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 5,075 |
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Re: -- Wii System Update 4.2 Mega Topic -- DO NOT UPDATE RIGHT NOW!!! October 01, 2009 09:12PM | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 41 |
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SifJar
Wiis will brick regardless of "mods" i.e homebrew. Its the buggy boot2 update code that causes bricks, nothing else. There are people with unmodified wiis that have bricked, and there are people with HBC and stuff that havent bricked. Nintendo did not design the update to brick people with homebrew, that would be ILLEGAL. They designed it to remove homebrew, but not to brick anyone. Its more due to their incompetence that anything else that people's wiis are being bricked. Team Twiizers managed to write safe boot2 update code (i.e BootMii Installation code used in HackMii Installer), but Nintendo didnt. Their's is crap and buggy.
I guess they never really intended to use it, so didnt bother debugging it too much. They'll probably release another update soon, this one without a boot2 update, but containing upgraded boot2 updation code. Then shortly after that, there will be another update with updated boot2, which will be installed using the updated boot2 updation code. However, it wont be much help for people who dont install the update with the updated boot2 updation code. Still, thats just a guess from me, although it seems the logical course of action.
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nintendude
So basically, there's no real reason to update to 4.2 right now? There's no actual improvements that 4.2 brings to Wii as Nintendo claims (even though it sounds like the new update makes things worse rather than better)? Especially if there's a chance that my Wii will brick, which I don't want, then I'll probably wait. I won't be needing the Wii shop channel in the near future (at least for now) and I don't think that there are any games that require a 4.2 update, right?
Also, side question: since I do own SSBB, what is the SSBB exploit (a.k.a. SmashStack)?